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's right. joe lieberman is conservative, a hawk, respected by some senators on foreign policy issues. there may be three republican senators who don't like her, another 97 who have votes, the house members who have been campaigning against her don't have votes. something chip said, it would be weird or odd for this process to be playing out if she is not going to be nominated as secretary of state. chip, it shows i think a real political premise on your part, and i think unfortunately shared by so much of your party here, she's a cabinet-level foreign policy person. so if you're serious about any of these issues, it shouldn't matter whether she's nominated or not. you should care about the substance of it. secondly, you and your party come to this debate with big deficit because you and president bush and dick cheney lied this country into war and you had a lot of lies on foreign policy about wmds. president bush even said once in may 2003 that we found the wmds in iraq. dick cheney and condoleezza rice talked about links to al qaeda in iraq. you've never made up for those huge, seri
news shows to disseminate information about foreign policy to the american people. so to say that she should stay off news shows which are sunday which are informative to the public, yes, there is politics there, is incorrect. the president needs the chief foreign policy spokesperson for his administration and that's the secretary of state and then secondarily it's the u.n. ambassador. so i partially agree with the senator, they should stay out of domestic politics, but not when an issue like this comes up that the american people deserve some kind of an explanation. >> is it fair that she's caught in the cross hairs about what the intelligence was at the time and what was able to be passed along, disseminated to the public within that many days after the attack in benghazi? >> i think there's too much focus on the crosshairs. if the president is going to nominate ambassador rice, it should ob her qualifications. she has terrific qualifications. she's a road scholar, assistant secretary of africa when i was at the u.n. she was in her 30s at the time. she's been a distinguished ambassa
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